By Ben Azari
'Army Radio Sales Co.'

Model year serial numbers quantity. 1906 4902-5279 377. 1907 5280-6184 904. 1908 6185-8341 2156. 1910 5 10594. 1911 1 15355. 1912 0 27578. 1913 2 24591. 1914 17 21344. 1915 148 13530. 1916 142 11093. 1917 134 8391.

This got me thinking, there must be a better way to generate electricity at the lowest possible costs, both initial start-up costs and in running costs. Sun power was not even considered at this point as it is a complete waste of time in England 'It rains or is cloudy almost all the time'. We are lucky to have 2 weeks of continuous sun light without rain in the summer.

The next best option is to have a mechanical motor connected to a AC generator, running on some sort of fuel, be it Petrol 'too expensive', Gas 'too Expensive' or Diesel 'better but still too expensive'.

But if one was to choose a diesel engine then as it is diesel it can run on Vegetable Oil, and if vegetable oil then it can run on used vegetable oil from restaurants for free! This is a much better option than wind generation especially on my pocket.

Environmentally not 100% green as wind or sun generators but just as good as. Burning used vegetable oil makes sense, plants while growing absorb gases from the atmosphere these gases we release back in the atmosphere when we burn the oil in an engine, so technically we are not adding anything back in the atmosphere that was not there in the first place.

I remembered many years ago I saw a very old slow running engine with two big flywheels on a farm which was used as a water pump and ran on diesel, one of these engines would be perfect for generating electricity. A quick search on Google about 'Stationary Engines' produced a lot of results and I soon found the engine that I had seen so many years ago.

It turned out to be a Lister type CS diesel Engine, but were do I find one from? so I looked on eBay and there it was!

Lister type CS 600 RPM 3 HP engine. 3HP is not a lot of output power, but should be able to drive a 3 or 3.5 KVA AC generator with no problem which will provide me with most of the power I need to run my home, also as it is water cooled and I should be able to reclaim some of the heat from the Engine cooling system and the engine exhaust to run some form of heating system for the house. I thought as it is only an experiment the 3HP engine would be OK to begin with and if I find that I need more power then I would get a bigger 6HP engine.

I told my wife about my plans and showed her the eBay auction for the Lister CS engine that I was planning to bid on. She was totally unimpressed about the whole idea!

To win her over I promised her that we will save money on fuel bills 'not sure at this stage' and that I will keep it in the shed at the bottom of the garden and not in the garage next to the house 'The engine should really be next to the house for short hot water pipe runs'. She was also worried about the noise it will make while running and I promised that it will be so quiet that we will be able to sleep next to it and no one will be able to hear it running. 'I really have no idea at this point how noisy it is going to be'.

So far so good and she is coming around to the idea, while waiting a few days for the eBay auction to end, I do more research on the Lister CS engines instead of answering customers emails about radios.

As it turns out I am not the first person who has thought of using a Lister CS engine to generate power with used vegetable oil. I get the manuals on the engine and read about other peoples experiences. All looks very interesting and doable. Did you know you can buy these engines new from India. They are locally made copies of the original Lister engines. Indian prices are not bad at all for a new engine, but I rather have a original British engine and not a copy. As it turns out the Lister on eBay I was looking at was made some time in the 1940-41 'War Time Dated' so even more reason to get this particular engine. Lister CS engines were originally designed in the 1920's and made from 1930's to 1980's in England.

I won the eBay auction, the good wife was very disappointment but I was happy, I got it for a good price and I was looking forward to restoring something mechanical for a change instead of the usual radios. The engine was in Shropshire and I arranged collection for the following weekend. I borrowed my friends small van, 'the one who asked about wind generation' and went up in the morning to collect the engine. Found the farm with some difficulty as it was in a mobile phone dead spot. The seller was very helpful in loading the engine in to the van, but we had to lye down the engine as it was too tall to fit in the van standing up. On the way back I had to stop and tie the engine down to the floor of the van as the flywheels were acting like wheels and the heavy engine was moving every time I was accelerating or braking. Not a good idea to have a loose engine in the van, but it proved that the engine was not seized.

The next morning we made a ramp and wheeled the engine off the van to the floor. This is some heavy engine, but it was very easy to wheel it off on its own flywheels, good thing I tied the engine down on the way back or it could have been disaster waiting to happen.

Lister built variations of this diesel engine and the 'Cold Start' or CS models where available as singles, twins and 4 cylinder models. These new CS engines were very reliable requiring minimum maintenance, simple to service using a few tools and became very successful. Thousands were manufactured for home use and exported throughout the British Commonwealth performing a variety of tasks.

During the 1950's the 3-1, 5-1, and 10-2 engines were slightly up-rated in speed from 600 to 650 RPM producing slightly more power. The 3-1, 3-2 engines were discontinued in 1952. The 6-1 continued to be manufactured until 1974 and the 12-2 until 1975. The 8-1 was manufactured until 1987 when Lister stopped production of these engines.

A lot of these engines were exported to British India until the British rule ended in 1947. The new Indian government banned the importation of British products including Lister engines and spare parts. People started to bring in their own parts to keep the engines running. Some enterprising individuals started to assemble their own engines from parts brought over from England at high cost. They soon realised that they can reproduce casting parts locally and started to manufacture spare parts at low cost. The demand was very good for locally produced spare parts and soon they were able to manufacture complete engines to the original Lister designs. Today there are several Indian companies that are still producing copies of these engines known as 'Listeroid Engines'.

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The Brush Alternator

It was some time near the end of end of Jan. 2007 when 'Big Mike' got in touch and offered a 5KVA Brush Alternator to me. I was searching for a suitable alternator for my Lister CS Diesel Engine project for almost a year and I accepted the offer in exchange for a very nice HF radio set!

Here are a few pictures of the alternator until I find manual before I attempt to restore it.

Any details such as a manual to restore and use this Brush Alternator would be greatly appreciated.

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